tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057450028150007198.post2196182248180607346..comments2023-08-25T07:13:38.866-07:00Comments on Nothing Elegant: Fernand Khnopff and the Symbolic Woman{Tara}http://www.blogger.com/profile/00983868577862685234noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057450028150007198.post-25607973154592989492009-07-03T20:01:18.115-07:002009-07-03T20:01:18.115-07:00beautiful.
xobeautiful.<br />xobloodmilk.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17567670584492365063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057450028150007198.post-7918565296336455622009-07-01T12:04:20.485-07:002009-07-01T12:04:20.485-07:00i think it's two women. and does anyone ever t...i think it's two women. and does anyone ever talk about this maybe being the painter's fantasy? two women kissing is such a familiar modern sexual fantasy...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057450028150007198.post-39760840053334002592009-06-30T04:42:37.396-07:002009-06-30T04:42:37.396-07:00Thank you so much for this post! I was familiar wi...Thank you so much for this post! I was familiar with that painting of the woman with the cheetah...but the others - so amazing!!Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15373792347824489296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057450028150007198.post-17963498004334282072009-06-29T14:58:59.982-07:002009-06-29T14:58:59.982-07:00My Special Stash -- I didn't even think of Kah...My Special Stash -- I didn't even think of Kahlo, but you're right, she deals a lot with inner and outer identities! It is very different when envisioned by a woman though, it seems! I do often think there is something sinister in these Victorian portrayals. Have you ever read "Idols of Perversity"? It is fascinating -- I think you would really enjoy it. It deals with all of the varying motifs of women in Victorian art -- most of them very nasty, underneath it all [according to the author, anyway].{Tara}https://www.blogger.com/profile/00983868577862685234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9057450028150007198.post-81605303921382404832009-06-29T12:09:38.239-07:002009-06-29T12:09:38.239-07:00Wow, such an interesting post! I haven't studi...Wow, such an interesting post! I haven't studied Victorian art at all, but these "doubling" images kind of remind me of Frida Kahlo's famous self-portrait "The Two Fridas", which explores the duplicity which women inevitably experience- the disjunct between societal expectations of women, and the true female experience and nature. While Frida's narratives tended to skewer the gender norms for creating that sense of "double identity", it seems like Victorian art blames the women for failing to satisfy their obligations as women. Even though some of the pieces seem somewhat bleak in that sexism, I also think that recognizing the divide between male perceptions of women, and the female reality, was an important step in legitimizing the female perspective and experience.<br /><br />Sorry for rambling- is it obvious that I've gone a bit crazy while waiting for my summer job to start? :)Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10376299432048435907noreply@blogger.com